sorry josie as far as skin is concernd it was images of the web i was trying to use like wigan warriors badge and union jack etc on a plane silver or white back ground or base colour ive tryd all sort to get it work i even managed to get what i thought was a skin on it then it turned out to be just a red stripe the base colour always stays same josie black. so i asked skinner as he did alot of skins but no help proper yet i think maybe my self looking at skinners skins you can only add stripes etc nothing like images of say assasains creed as if it were air brush anyhow josie thanks for try flower you spent enough time on it i gona do him that scania t of mike gt i can do that cheers have good weekend and that m63 in lancashire yorkshire aint showing hitchikers lol bye josie thankyou